Debating the
Lobby in
Manhattan
Here are a
collection of articles about ground-breaking
discussion of Jewish Lobby in New York.
You’d find their conclusions expected and even
timid; but do not forget: In the US and the West
it is punishable by law to doubt inherent
beneficence of Jewish rule, or even to admit its
presence. Thus these reports can be compared to
first breeze of glasnost in Gorbachev’s days in
1985 when the first objections to communist rule
in Moscow were voiced. Exciting read,
anyway:
(1)
‘Israel
Lobby' Caused War in Iraq, September
11 Attacks, Professor Says
BY IRA STOLL -
Staff Reporter of the Sun September 29, 2006
URL:
http://www.nysun.com/article/40629
A tenured professor
at the University of Chicago
last night blamed the "Israel Lobby" in
America for both the Iraq war
and the attacks of September 11, 2001.
Speaking to a crowd
of hundreds at the Cooper Union, he was met
mostly with support from two other professors,
Tony Judt of New York University
and Rashid Khalidi of Columbia.
"The
Israel lobby was one of the principal driving forces behind the Iraq
War, and in its absence we probably would not
have had a war," said the
University of Chicago professor, John Mearsheimer, at a forum
organized by the London Review of Books.
Later, in response
to a question from the audience, Mr. Mearsheimer
claimed that the "animus to the United
States" of Qaeda terrorist mastermind
Khalid Sheik Mohammed "stemmed from U.S.
foreign policy toward Israel."
This, Mr.
Mearsheimer asserted, "Simply can't be discussed
in the mainstream media." He appeared to have
forgotten the article that ran on September 20,
2001, on the op-ed page of the largest
circulation American newspaper, The Wall Street
Journal, that began with the sentence: "Is
American support of Israel behind the hatred of
this country that p ervades the Arab world and
that literally exploded into the World Trade
Center and the Pentagon on Sept. 11?"
In fact, Mr.
Mearsheimer claimed, "There is a considerable
amount of evidence that there is a linkage
between the two" - the two being American
support for Israel and the terrorist
attacks of September 11.
The event last
night at Cooper Union was a discussion of a
paper issued by the Kennedy School of Government
at Harvard University earlier this
year and published in an edited version in the
London Review of Books. The paper was authored
by Mr. Mearsheimer and by an academic dean and
professor at the Kennedy School,
Stephen Walt. It described what it alleged to be
a vast Israel lobby that included the editors of
the New York Times, "neoconservative gentiles,"
the Brookings Institution, and students at
Columbia. The "Lobby," the paper said, had the
"ability to manipulate the American political
system," "a stranglehold on the U.S. Congress,"
and was actively "manipulating the media."
The
Kennedy School quickly distanced itself from the paper, removing its
logo and printing a large disclaimer on the
front cover of the paper.
A Brookings scholar
and former American ambassador to Israel, Martin
Indyk, said at the Cooper Union debate that the
paper "lowers itself to the level of
anti-Semitism" and was "very sloppy" in its
scholarship.
A former foreign
minister of Israel, Shlomo Ben-Ami,
said at the event that the term "Lobby" as used
in the paper "is a cover for the Jews,
basically," and that there was an "element of
scapegoating" in the case made by Messrs.
Mearsheimer and Walt.
Messrs. Khalidi and
Judt both bemoaned the fact that America's
relations with Israel were not
debated more hotly and frequently.
"In American
political discourse there is one side to this
debate," Mr. Khalidi said. "There are not two
sides to this debate."
Mr. Judt said that
the New York Times asked him whether he was
Jewish before publishing his opinion piece on
the Walt-Mearsheimer paper. Mr. Judt said he is
Jewish, but he sought to distinguish himself
from the American Jewish community. "For many
American Jews, there is no daylight between
America's interests and Israel's
interests, the two are one and the same. We have
to somehow unravel this connection," he said. He
tried to draw a distinction between anti-Zionism
and anti-Semitism.
Mr. Indyk
criticized the Iran-Libya Sanctions Act signed
by President Clinton as "counterproductive."
He said it had split America from its
allies in Europe. The bill had been
championed by the American Israel Public Affairs
Committee. Mr. Indyk also noted he had been
criticized by pro-Israel groups in America
while serving in the State Department. "I have
the scars to show it," he said.
Yet Mr. Mearsheimer
said Mr. Indyk is "at the core of the lobby,"
along with another Clinton administration State
Department official, Dennis Ross.
"That is
ridiculous," Mr. Ross said.
He and Mr. Indyk
made the point that the American government did
not always do what the so-called Israel
lobby wanted.
Mr. Indyk, on his
way out of the two-hour session, told The New
York Sun's Gary Shapiro that he thought the
debate had been "vigorous." "It exposed a lot of
the flaws in Mearsheimer's paper," he said.
The start of the
event was delayed by more than half an hour as
those who had tickets or who were invited guests
were scanned by metal detectors.
(2) Tony Judt sides
with Mearsheimer in debate vs Martin Indyk and
Dennis Ross
MondoWeiss: The
Great Debate at Cooper Union Last Night
« Never Mind the
Bollocks--Here Is Walt and Mearsheimer!
The Great Debate at
Cooper Union Last Night
I got home quite
late from the Israel lobby debate and
am on deadline for print, so I won't get around
to a full report till later, but thought it best
to file a few impressions while the world is
still making up its mind...
The debate was
diffuse. It had few dramatic moments. There were
six debaters with five different points of view,
and the three men positing the existence of the
lobby had not coordinated their points ahead of
time and so were sorting out differences on
stage. My friend Scott McConnell of the American
Conservative said that he missed the great
moment, the climactic clash, then reflected that
maybe this is something that documentaries
manage to create after the fact.
Yet: No one could
leave the hall unconvinced that there is an
Israel lobby. The quarrel was over scope
and character. If the Israel lobby is
the elephant in the room of American politics,
here were six blind men each naming a different
part of it they had felt in the dark. Well
actually, four blind men. The three positing the
existence of the lobby were joined by Shlomo
Ben-Ami, from the other side, in a spirit of
intellectual vigor and openness. All four
speakers added to the audience's understanding.
The other 2, Martin Indyk and Dennis Ross,
longtime elephant-fattener-uppers, were
determined to show the audience that the
elephant was a hamster. They failed.
The debate belonged
to Tony Judt. He arrived late to the hall in a
turtleneck - everyone else was in ties - and
might have been Mariano Rivera, for his
confidence and dispatch. He was the most
imaginative speaker, and imagination is required
when you are describing a King kong sasquatch no
one has seen and whose wranglers say doesn't
exist. When Shlomo Ben-Ami and Martin Indyk said
that John Mearsheimer was antisemitic for
speaking of a collection of Jews who influence
policy, Judt demolished them by quoting Arthur
Koestler when he became an anticommunist and
said that Just because idiots and bigots share
some of his views doesn't discredit the views.
The job of the social scientist is to describe
the true conditions of society; are these
statements accurate or not? That is the only
issue. I'm paraphrasing. Judt was way more
eloquent.
Judt's second great
moment was when he accused Indyk of being
"faux-naive" - a civilized way of saying, You're
lying - when Indyk kept saying that the lobby
was one small factor in an American president's
exertions of power. Here again, he used his
imagination. Because when you're talking about
something about which there is very little
information, and those who know something about
it are trying to deny its existence, you need
imagination. Anyway, Judt described the real
exercise of power. He said that when a small
state defied an American president, and the
president wanted to do something about it, he
had a great number of seen and unseen ways of
compelling that state to fall into line, all
sorts of bullying and pressure and fury. None of
these had been deployed in Israel's
case, and lo and behold the settlements had
continued to expand, over four decades... Again
I'm paraphrasing. Judt also got the last word of
the night when he explained to a hungry audience
that knew in its bones it has been deprived,
that this discussion was an astoundingly rare
one, and mind you it was organized by the London
Review of Books. Thus he gave the audience a
real sense of how the U.S.
discourse/policy works, which is what the
evening was after all fumbling towards.
The most resonant
moment of the debate was Judt's, too. He pointed
out that when he had endorsed the Mearsheimer-Walt
thesis, in an article for an unnamed major North
American newspaper, he was asked by the editors
whether he is Jewish, and told to stick that
fact in the article. (Otherwise they couldn't
publish it, was implicit or explicit, I'll have
to check my tape). The newspaper - obviously -
was the New York Times, in which Judt's op-ed
taking Walt/Mearsheimer's side, appeared
last April, as I recall, to stunning effect. I
say resonant, and damning: Let's consider the
lesson of this story: You can only speak out on
this issue if you're Jewish? Oh my god, how did
we get here...
The other three
intellectuals' knowledge was more limited. John
Mearsheimer deserves the greatest credit of all
for breaking the seal on this discussion. But
his actual knowledge of the lobby is drawn from
reports of people who have seen Kong in the
jungle, and lived to tell. So he read from one
account or another of the lobby's existence, and
its function in pushing for the Iraq
war. Living in Chicago, he lacks
intimate knowledge of its workings. His best
moment came when he said that the U.S.
ought to put pressure on Israel to
come into line on matters that are important to
us and if it fails to do so, or chooses a
different course, the
U.S. and Israel "should go their separate ways." This was
a clean and bracing view of the relations of
states. While ideal, in a realistic way, it
certainly describes the usual behavior of the
U.S. when a small state defies it on a
critical question. E.g., the settlements. And
the absence of democracy in the West Bank.
We could have frozen those settlements with a
wave of the hand...
Rashid Khalidi was
the emotional life of the debate. He spoke of
the lobby in more sweeping terms than
Mearsheimer; he conveyed in a way no one else
was able the ways in which the pro-Palestinian
view is suppressed in the American scene. He got
off the best line of the debate. His neighbor
Dennis Ross's mike wasn't working. Khalidi
passed him his own. "This is the first time that
a Palestinian has ever enabled the Israeli side
to narrate..." he said, in so many words.
Laughter. And after that the audience waited on
his words.
Enough for now. It
was a fabulous night. We all left improved. The
London Review of Books had extended the
boundaries of knowledge, and freedom.
(3)
http://mondoweiss.observer.com/2006/10/more-on-thursday-nights-israel-lobby-debate-in-ny.html
"Congress is
bought and paid for by AIPAC, a point that even
Indyk and Ross seemed to concede, even as they
claimed that an American President could act
with complete freedom."
More on Thursday Night's
Israel Lobby Debate in N.Y.
Philip Weiss
New York Observer
As I went downtown
on the subway Thursday I wondered whether I
wasn't going to seem a fool for how excited I'd
been in the days leading up to the debate. Then
when I got there that selfconsciousness
vanished, because the excitement was so
palpable. The lines snaked all around Cooper
Union. This had to do in part with the security
measures to prevent anyone from blowing the
place up, but more to do with the stormsurge of
interest. All the tickets had been sold, and
there were a couple hundred people on a line
just to get extra seats. I had bought an extra
ticket, and impetuously gave it to a girl on the
line.
The hall was
subterranean. You went down into one of the
great spaces of New York, with arched
wings of dressed brownstone going off the
columns to the walls, and then the pleasure was
the pleasure of intellectual seriousness. Later
I learned that the Great Hall was the place
where the NAACP and the women's suffragists'
movement was born. I saw a great number of
people I half-know, and it was evident that the
ideas that Walt and Mearsheimer put forward are
of tremendous interest to many serious people.
Lewis Lapham was sitting behind me, Ham Fish was
a row away. I saw Adam Shatz of the Nation,
Michael Massing of NYRB, Mary Kay Wilmers, the
editor of the LRB, and so on. Even my wife had
come. It's hard to get her out.
Today I wonder how
much of this debate I will remember years from
now, and wonder if it won't be the moment in
which Rashid Khalidi gave Dennis Ross his
microphone because Ross's had failed, and then
Ross said a little too smoothly he always tried
to empower Palestinians, and Khalidi said, with
a kind of ingenuousness, "I would give you the
shirt off my back, but it's too small." LRB had,
smartly, interspersed the two sides at the two
tables; despite all the fighting, there was a
feeling of community, sustained when Shlomo
Ben-Ami stayed after the debate with his three
"adversaries" to answer the unending questions
from the hardcore.
The first half hour
was spent attacking the scholarship of the LRB
paper, then the next hour and a half was spent
arguing about the dimensions of the lobby.
The waterboarding
administered to Mearsheimer over "shoddy
scholarship" seemed to me further proof of the
existence of the "lobby." The shortcomings in
Mearsheimer and Walt's paper are that they drew
broad conclusions on the basis of scarce press
reports about this or that scarcely-seen event,
and so there was an element of supposition about
their conclusions. But since when is reliance on
published reports rather than on "original"
research and interviews a disqualifier for
publication? With some passion, and the feeling
of being marginalized, Shlomo Ben-Ami attacked
Mearsheimer for leaving Israel out of
the paper as a living entity. He's right. But 1,
the paper's not about Israel. And 2,
more to the point, why does this work have to
attain such a high bar, in terms of breadth—the
quality Ben-Ami saw as lacking—in order to
broach the issue? I guess the paper had to be
perfect to be published. And that's the problem.
Nothing is perfect, so nothing can be published.
When in reality, democratic debates are filled
with speculation and interpretation. In a word,
intellectual freedom. The discourse has none of
that here.
Two friends of mine
faulted Mearsheimer for reading from testimonies
about the lobby rather than offering a
synthesis. Having seen him a few times, I
thought he was back on his heels, yet it is
understandable to me. He was under attack from
the first second, in Yankee Stadium no less, in
the first open debate of his ideas. He was
without his co-author, Steve Walt (who had
important family obligations in Boston),
and Walt, of Harvard, knows the court of the
east coast in ways that Mearsheimer, who is more
of a tough outsider, does not. The most vicious
charges were leveled at Mearsheimer--you
are alleging a "cabal," Martin Indyk kept
saying--and yet the author wasn't given any more
time than anyone else in which to respond.
After the debate a
friend of mine confronted Indyk in the hallway
outside. "I was leaving and couldn't resist
giving him a piece of my mind," my friend
reports. "I've never laid eyes on the guy
before, except on television occasionally. I
told him that his vicious and snide remarks had
backfired with the audience and that if he had
treated his adversaries with respect, he would
have fared better. He looked rather taken aback
and vanished into an elevator."
Let's dwell on the
"cabal" charge. Indyk was saying that
Mearsheimer was guilty of anti-Semitic
stereotype. Tony Judt blasted Indyk when he said
that social scientists are called upon to
observe reality, not decide whether what they're
observing fills some bigot's ideas or not. Both
Khalidi and Judt would say that the paper did
not go far enough. Again I'll refer to Judt's
bold statement about the NYT Op-Ed page
requiring him to state he was Jewish when he
wrote in support of Walt and Mearsheimer last
April. This is tragic. If you think that only
1.3 percent of Americans are allowed to speak
out on this issue&#%151;the lobby, whatever it
is—we're in bad shape. I know: the Holocaust; if
non-Jews express themselves, the next thing you
know the Jews will be kicked out of Century and
Cosmos Club and the U.S. Senate and there will
be camps. Our discourse is being held hostage by
these old ways of thinking.
Khalidi made a
similar contribution, saying how rare it was for
Palestinian voices to be included in public
debate. And if Walt had been there, I imagine
this confessional spirit might have freed him to
tell of the special pressures that have come to
bear on him at Harvard, the financial blackmails
to the institution that have arisen from his
speaking his mind (I mentioned these threats in
the Nation last spring), and the ways in which
his own burgeoning career, at 51, has been
potentially punctured by his stance.
We're not talking
about a cabal. We're talking about a thousand
acts of devotion by American Jews who care about
Israel and have most of them not been
there. This simply cannot be divorced from an
understanding of the culture of power, and the
role of Jews in the establishment. Ross and
Indyk were two of several Jews on the
Clinton team negotiating at Camp
David. (According to Clayton Swisher's
book, The Truth About Camp David, there was only
one Arab-American in the big team.) This morning
on Meet the Press, the two Ohio Senate
contenders, Mike DeWine and Sherrod Brown,
argued all about terrorism, and the word
Israel came up once, as a source of
grievance, but there was no mention of the
Occupied Territories, let alone the denial
of democracy to over 1 million Palestinians
there. As for my commenters who talk about the
clash of civilizations, I agree with you, Islam
needs to break on through to modernity; but if
you think we can ignore these questions, you're
nuts. But as Meet the Press demonstrates, our
leadership cannot discuss them openly. American
presidents have been against the settlements but
done nothing really to stop them. And Congress
is bought and paid for by AIPAC, a point that
even Indyk and Ross seemed to concede, even as
they claimed that an American President could
act with complete freedom.
I repeat a metaphor from my last blog. It's the
elephant in the room, and here are 6 blind men
coming out of the room, and telling you what
they know about it....
That would be my
takeaway from the debate: Our journalism is
broken. There are 100 books about Iraq
out now, from people who have been there. There
is not 1 book out about the Israel
lobby. Walt and Mearsheimer essentially
performed a journalistic function, and did what
journalists would call a clip job—assembling
previously-published reports before making
large conclusions. A basic function of
democratic society is completely kaput here. I
did a front page magazine story for the NYT on
the gun lobby. Never has there been one on the
Israel lobby. There aren't TV
documentaries on it; 60 Minutes and Ted Koppel
are not trying to pin down Abe Foxman about his
mission or Malcolm Hoenlein about whether he
called
Clinton during Camp David, let alone going near AIPAC. Our
society's lens is simply not turned on these
institutions in anything like the way it ought
to be.
(4)
Debating the Lobby
in Manhattan/Israel Sends in the Clowns,By
MICHAEL J. SMITH
http://www.counterpunch.com/smith09292006.html
September 29, 2006
Debating the Lobby in
Manhattan
Israel
Sends in the Clowns
By MICHAEL J. SMITH
Does it seem
implausible that one might actually feel
sympathy for a professor at the
University of Chicago? So I would have thought; but as John
Mearsheimer got the waterboard treatment from
Martin Indyk and Dennis Ross last night at
New York's Cooper Union, there was
something undeniably poignant in his situation.
Mearsheimer, an earnest, polite, owlish gent,
had the bemused air of a man trying to reason
with a pair of rabid Dobermans.
The occasion was a
"debate," hosted by the London Review of Books,
on the question, "The Israel Lobby: Does it have
too much influence on US foreign
policy?"
Noam Chomsky
observes somewhere that "debates are one of the
most irrational institutions that humans have
devised," because they "demand irrationality" on
the part of the combatants. He neglected to add
that they also often bring out the worst in the
spectators. And when the subject is Israel,
and the debate takes place in New York,
where this topic usually evokes irrationality on
a titanic scale -- well, the ensuing spectacle
is likely to delight a misanthrope's heart.
My high
misanthropic hopes were greatly reinforced,
while we waited for the program to start, by my
immediate neighbors, who were solemnly, and
approvingly, discussing the ideas of that mighty
thinker, Thomas Friedman. Aha, I thought,
mentally rubbing my hands, this is going to be
good.
The prosecution
team consisted of professors Mearsheimer, Rashid
Khalidi from Columbia, and Tony Judt,
from NYU. Appearing for the defense were
Israel lobbyists Indyk and Ross, both of
whom also served Israel's cause as
prominent members of the Clinton
administration. They were joined by redundant
Israeli labor party politician Shlomo Ben-Ami.
(Why, you ask, was a former Israeli cabinet
minister invited to discuss a question of
American politics? That's a very good question,
and I wish you had been there to ask it at the
time.)
The debate was
"moderated" by Ann-Marie Slaughter, who is dean
of the Woodrow Wilson School of International
Affairs at Princeton. (The name of
this institution always makes me laugh -- as who
should say, the Henry VIII School of Women's
Studies, or the Lester Maddox Institute for
Racial Amity.)
The beleaguered
Mearsheimer, of course, is one of the authors,
with Stephen Walt, of the succès-de-scandale
paper "The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy,"
which created quite a stir when it appeared last
spring. The sound of carpet-chewing from Alan
Dershowitz's Cambridge house
reportedly gave many Harvard faculty a week's
worth of sleepless nights.
What became known
as the "Mearsheimer-Walt thesis" is, to
paraphrase bluntly the authors' careful
formulations, that the Israel lobby
has been successful in "distorting" American
foreign policy in Israel's interest.
In particular, Mearsheimer and Walt argue, we
would not have had an Iraq war
without the Lobby's contribution. These are, to
say the least, fighting words.
Indyk and Ross
showed up in fighting trim, and Slaughter threw
them a slow soft one in her first question: Was
the Mearsheimer-Walt paper anti-Semitic?
Well, more or less,
yes, was the predictable answer from Israel's
defense bench. Mearsheimer, said the imposing,
silver-maned Indyk, postulates a sinister
"cabal" (he must have used this word a hundred
times over the next two hours) that includes
"anyone who has a good word to say about
Israel." With regard to the Iraq
war, Indyk's trump card was that the Israel
lobby couldn't have made that happen, since the
Israel lobby really wanted to go after --
Iran! Mearsheimer, who has presumably
heard this sort of thing quite a lot lately,
watched Indyk with an unblinking, curious,
naturalist's gaze, as though he had discovered a
new subspecies of E. Coli.
But there was a
slightly tired, perfunctory, pro-forma quality
about Indyk's obligatory insults and falsehoods.
None of the defenders seemed to have his heart
in it, really -- and the audience, to their
credit and my surprise, wasn't buying it,
either. The defense team had to say these things
-- that's how the game is played -- but their
threadbare invective evoked groans and hisses
from the groundlings, and in any case, the trio
had other, more important, fish to fry.
The other fish in
question, it appears, is that all these guys
would very much like to be back in office. And
on this point, sadly, they seemed to have much
of the audience with them.
Judt, and
Mearsheimer, and Khalidi, don't have this
problem. They all have tenure at good
universities -- or, in Khalidi's case, at a
university that suburban parents still think
is a good one. They get published, and people
cite them. They're at the pinnacle of their
profession, and only death or Alzheimer's can
knock them off it. But Indyk, and Ross, and the
Woody-Allenish Ben-Ami, wielded state power
once, and now they don't. They're on the outside
looking in, and would love to have their
helicopter rides, and their bodyguards, and
their sense of importance back again.
So the burden of
their song, last night, was that the Lobby is
not the problem. Rather -- they sang, in close
three-part harmony -- rather, the problem is
that we have these awful Republicans in power
here in the US, and the awful
Likudniks -- now wearing a centrist smiley-face
-- in power back in the Promised Land. Want to
make things better? Throw the rascals out, and
put us back in.
The rodentine Ross
put it most crassly: "If Al Gore had been
president, we would not have had an Iraq
war." The crowd, I'm sorry to say, loved it.
Ben-Ami took up the same tune and modulated into
a slightly different key: "One thing that
doesn't exist in your analysis," he thundered,
"is Israel!" -- a line which,
depressingly, may have nudged the applause-meter
up to its maximum for the evening. "Israel's
behavior is the responsibility of its elected
leaders!" More applause, and sage murmurs of
"he's very intelligent!" from my neighbors
in the peanut gallery.
The defense team
indignantly rejected the idea that a US
administration should ever "force" Israel
to do anything -- while strenously claiming, in
the next breath, that Bill Clinton, to his
everlasting credit, had put the screws to
Israel in a way that made Torquemada look
like a bleeding-heart. So... if you have a
problem with the Israel lobby, then
your best bet is to elect a Democrat. Now
there is an original idea.
If you've read
Clayton Swisher's remarkable book, The Truth
About Camp David, then the picture that
Indyk and Ross and Ben-Ami were painting of an
assertive Clinton holding Israel's feet to the
fire will look a little strange. In fact, last
night was something of a reunion for Indyk and
Ross and Ben-Ami, who were all participants in
the Clinton "peace process" -- and all working
for the same side, though Indyk and Ross held US
passports and Ben-Ami an Israeli one. As Aaron
Miller, Ross' former deputy from that period,
famously observed later, "far too often, we
functioned in this process, for want of a better
word, as Israel's lawyer."
But the rewriting
of history, and the retrospective rose-tinting
of Democratic and Labor administrations, is a
favorite liberal game, and the Manhattan
congregation largely approved. Indyk, Ross and
Ben-Ami were able to put over the virtuoso turn
of denying, in one breath, that the Israel
lobby has any power, and promising, in the next
breath, to neutralize that power if they could
only get back into their helicopters.
They have a point,
of course. Neither Israel nor its
Lobby are monoliths. The Likudniks are now in
the ascendant in both, and our tuneful trio are,
relatively speaking, sidelined. There are
different ideas about tactics and strategy,
priorities and alliances, among different
elements at both ends of the Washington-Jerusalem
axis.
But of course -- as
Mearsheimer came close to saying, at one point
-- the best proof of the Mearsheimer-Walt
thesis was sitting in front of us all night, in
the form of Ross and Indyk themselves. These two
have spent their careers alternating between
organizations like AIPAC and WINEP on the one
hand, and guarding the
Middle East henhouse in government on the other. The twists and turns
of tactics and diplomacy, as one faction
replaces another, don't conceal an underlying,
essential continuity.
If I weren't such a
misanthrope, I might be tempted to say that
nevertheless, the glass is half full. Twenty
years ago, such a discussion, in this venue,
would have been unthinkable; any attempt to
raise the topic at all would have been shouted
down by a coalition of JDL thugs from Brooklyn,
and tough little old ex-Communist ladies from
the Upper West Side. Twenty years ago, you would
not have seen Establishment figures like
Mearsheimer and Walt saying such things. Twenty
years ago, a New York audience would
have received Indyk's cheap demagogy with
thunderous applause rather than groans and boos.
So the times they
are a-changin'. But we still have a ways to go.
If I correctly assessed the temper of last
night's crowd, they mostly still want to find a
way to divide the baby -- to support and
vindicate Israel, but without all
these awful wars and walls. They would like to
cajole the Palestinians into playing nice --
without giving them anything that Israel
might want. They would like to bring Iran
to heel, without putting any boots on the
ground, if I may borrow the buzzword-du-jour.
In other words, I
fear most of them want Bill Clinton back. And
when I contemplate that idea, the glass looks a
lot more than half empty.
Michael J. Smith
lives in New York City. When his busy
social schedule permits, he works at undermining
the Democratic Party on his blog,
stopmebeforeivoteagain.org.
The Great Manhattan
debate on the Lobby:
an additional report by
Shamireaders’ own Dan of New York
(with a few great new
discoveries among them Khalidi’s saying that the
Mearsheimer/Walt paper overestimated the
influence of The Lobby on foreign policy but
also underestimated its influence on domestic
policy such as The Patriot Act. This is exactly
a point we were doing all along: the Jewish
Lobby’s primary goal is not Palestine,
but your freedom.):
On the way to the Israel
Lobby debate at Cooper Union, we saw an anti-war
rally with some sort of disturbance going on as
a dozen young people ran around on the little
island on Sixth Avenue across from
the old site of the Peppermint Lounge. The twist
to the rally was that it was a corny parody of a
60’s antiwar rally played out by some actors. So
fake out: just another corporate tourist skit
for Manhattan’s relentless
disneyfication.
Two friends were with me;
one was deathly ill but insisted on coming. And
there was indeed a Nunc dimittis cast to
the unprecedented event, exemplified by several
moribund looking octogenarian gents in blue
blazers who hobbled out at the end presumably to
hail a cab to a funeral home: “Now, may Thy
faithful servant depart...”
The Israeli team, Indyk,
Ross, and Ben Ami incarnated the truth of
Mearsheimer’s self-evident thesis. Indyk, for
his career trajectory from Aipac research
director to ambassador to Israel.
Ross for his role as
Israel’s lawyer at Camp David, and the Israeli Ben Ami for
debating an American domestic issue. One of his
absurd stratagems was to reproach Mearsheimer
for having left out Israel from his
forty-page paper on the American Israeli Lobby,
evidence of “shoddy scholarship.” As they sat
there I could imagine Indyk doing his
velocirapter “stare of death” and menacing the
mild unflappable Mearsheimer: “What is the
audience going to believe? Us or the evidence of
their own eyes?”
For connoisseurs and mavens
of bullshit and squid ink there were a few
choice delicacies to savor spread on wry. After
Ben Ami’s vehement and otiose complaint (So what
are we? Chopped liver?), my favorite of these
was Ross’s contention that 9/11 couldn’t
possibly have anything to do with Israel
since at that time the Peace Process was
proceeding so successfully that Arabs had no
grievance against the US for its
alliance with Israel. He grinned
broadly like a winning game show contestant as
he extruded this pearl of pilpul to the groans
of some in the audience. Some people can’t take
a joke. They really should have laughed but they
probably read the New York Times and take the
shell games of discourse management seriously.
The “Israelis,” – which I
think is the best term of art with which to
absolve Indyk and Ross of the charge of dual
loyalty –represented the “good cops” and the
“human face” of Zionism, the Labour left, hence
the hair-splitting nano pilpulism as opposed to
the heavy metal large bowel rage of a Dershowitz
or Perle. The latter would have found it a bit
trickier (but surely possible) to object
“indykgnantly” to the term “cabal” in the paper
since Perle himself, (aka the “Prince of
Darkness--the antonomasia he enjoys) and his
cohorts in the Pentagon indeed referred to
themselves as “The Cabal.” These guys are
basically deadpan schizophrenic comedians:
“What? You think that’s funny? This soi-disant
“Cabal” is one example of Mearsheimer and Walt’s
clincher: The Lobby boasts of its power and
vilifies and smears anyone who points out its
power. Indyk, Ross, and Ben Ami’s basic line was
whatever on earth you meant by The Lobby, it’s
not us so you’re an anti-Semitic boob and we
have little else to say. This posture was quite
entertainingly acrobatic for the grotesque
contortions they had to assume, rather like
imagining Benny Morris delivering a eulogy at
Deir Yassin in a red dress and stiletto heels.
Amidst all the lies,
pilpulisms, schizophrenic comedy, academic
negotiations, and discourse management,
Mearsheimer was outstanding for his simple
clarity and his calm under Indyk’s stare of
death. It seemed miraculous that this provincial
professor (actually he’s a Brooklyn
boy) should stand up to the Scarlet A accusation
and Indyk’s Spielbergian special effects with
such serene bemused sangfroid.
The first question posed by
the moderator had been “Was the paper
“anti-Semitic?” While the reaction was not quite
the gale force shit storm Dershowitz would have
unleashed, the turds began flying and so
besmeared, Mearsheimer soldiered on, without
benefit of either psychological intensity, death
stares, or glib verbal prestidigitation. And he
had in fact been a soldier, an American soldier
who came to academia through his own long march
and who perhaps spoke from his conviction that
American soldiers should not sacrifice their
lives for Israel. And there was also
the fact that he spoke the truth and in doing
that the Holy Spirit was his advocate and our
consoler. Perhaps he was “wise as a serpent”; he
was certainly “gentle as a dove.”
Tony Judt, the only
noteworthy American Jew to endorse the paper in
print, towards the end of the debate compared
The Lobby to the Irish, Poles, and Cubans
perhaps to palliate the outrage that had taken
place. Rashid Khalidi was swift on the uptake
with what appeared to me at first another
negotiation when he asserted that he thought the
Mearsheimer/Walt paper overestimated the
influence of The Lobby on foreign policy but
also underestimated its influence on domestic
policy such as The Patriot Act. He might have
gone on to discuss The Military Commissions Act
passed three days ago by congress that has
effectively abrogated habeas corpus and the Bill
of Rights for the infinite duration of the
perpetual war against evil, extremism, and olive
trees. RIP: American Republic.
Khalidi also got the
biggest laugh of the evening since the audience
seemed disinclined to bust a gut over the
Israeli’s schizophrenic schlock. When Ross’s
microphone wouldn’t work, Khalidi passed him his
own, quipping, “this is the first time a
Palestinian has ever had the chance to give the
opposition permission to narrate.” The big laugh
was for the recognition of the late Edward
Said’s poignantly abject petition for the
Palestinian to be granted “permission to
narrate.” I thought it was interesting that
Phillip Weiss of The New York Observer, in his
self-absorbed and aptly titled column “Mondoweiss”,
bleached the phrase into “enable to narrate” and
so missed the poignancy of the point. In
retrospect, the joke brings a tear with a smile
since the Palestinians still don’t have
permission to narrate their way far beyond a few
beleaguered and expensive academic courses.
In any event, with the
passage of the Military Commissions Act,
Americans can enjoy greater solidarity with the
Palestinians and their outlaw status. Now we are
subjects of a not so benign global hegemony
based on fear, terror, and torture administered
by a new “unitary” executive. How did this
happen? Who did this to us? Why? (rhetorical
questions, folks: I’m a comedian too). The bill
passed without opposition and only perfunctory
kvetching from chatting class hacks and other
MSM. The campuses are all chill and laid back
and like, “whatever.” Indeed, the noteworthy
opposition came from Arlen “Single Bullet
Theory” Spector who enjoyed doing a few soft
shoe turns and exhibiting his concern for the
chilling effect the bill might have for civil
liberties. Then he voted for the bill anyway,
expressing his confidence that the courts will
pilpul in perpetuity over it.
At the end of the last
chapter of The Prince entitled “Exhortation to
Liberate Italy from the Barbarians”,
Machiavelli speaks of “the barbarous tyranny
that stinks in the nostrils of us all.” Here in
the erstwhile republic most folks don’t smell a
thing but a few of us are breathing through the
mouth as we watch and pray and narrate without
permission.
Dan from New York
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