Subject: Webster v. Sue Blackwell,
involving Shamir
SHAMIR STILL UNDER FIRE FOR USING M.W. OUTPUT
A know-nothing 'academic' from Birmingham
University (in the UK), one Sue Blackwell, circulated an attack
Israel Shamir for using material from me on his web site and on
his List.
The woman was so ill-informed about me and
the "extreme right racist" scene in Britain generally that she
described me as "the leader of the British National Party".
(What a hoot!).
My response (a couple of items below) to this
ignorant woman obviously irritated her, so she got on to some
left wing bigots of her own stripe to try and get them to put
pressure on Shamir to toe their line. This bit of troublemaking
by Blackwell is what prompted Shamir's List item immediately
below. Shamir was not abashed, as you will see, any more than I
was.
What will the malignant Sue Blackwell try
next? She can't try the old primary school playground threat of
"I'm gonna get my gang on to you!!" because she's already tried
that and her gang was faced down by Shamir in short order.
It is very likely that she and her gang of
left wing anti-Zionists will approach the UK based
"anti-fascist" magazine 'Searchlight'? That is the orthodox
leftists' usual first stop when embarking on an "anti-racist"
initiative.
If that happens, the outcome should prove
interesting and the source of a steep learning curve for Sue and
her friends. The publisher of 'Searchlight', Gerry Gable, has
dedicated his life to a cause which transcends his
"anti-fascism" and "anti-racism" - but it is not the cause of
the Palestinians! He is a dedicated Zionist on close terms both
with officials of the Board of Deputies of British Jews and
senior Scotland Yard officers.
He encouraged his son, also a UK citizen born
and bred, to perform "national service" in the Israeli Defence
Force! Without doubt Gable senior is numbered among that
tight-knit group of Jewish UK citizens known in Israeli
intelligence circles as "Sayanim" ("Helpers"), some of whom
double-up as members of the Board of Deputies' spook
organisation, the Community Security Trust, which is granted
special training facilities by the London Metropolitan Police
and the Manchester Police
"'Helpers'? 'Helpers' of whom?", the
ignoramus Blackwell may be promoted to ask. The Mossad. That's
who, Sue. This should inspire great confidence among your
Palestinian associates to whom, as you see from the header, I
have copied this bulletin.
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From: "Israel Shamir" Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003
16:55:01 +0200 To: "Stanley Heller" Cc: "Emma Rosenthal" , "abou
faraz \(tarek ezzat\)" , "Universalist" , , "al-awda-unity"
Subject: Re: From the Moderators of Al-Awda-Unity Sent:
Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:19 PM Subject: From the Moderators
of Al-Awda-Unity
Dear friends,
I received the following letter from Stan
Heller. Though it churlishly lacks any form of address I presume
it refers to me. It is an interesting reading: I ran (and lost)
against Stan for the much coveted :-) position of this e-group
moderator, and this is the victor's magnanimity. Well, no
icepicks, anyway. My reply is below.
Israel Adam Shamir, Jaffa.
----- Original Message ----- From: Stanley Heller To: Israel
Shamir Cc: abou faraz (tarek ezzat) ; Emma Rosenthal Sent:
Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:19 PM Subject: From the Moderators
of Al-Awda-Unity
One of the principles of al-awda is
opposition to racism. "PRRC/Al-Awda condemns and does not
tolerate any kind of racism. This includes racism directed at
Palestinians by denying them the right to return to their homes
and lands and maintaining racist laws that allow any Jew to
acquire automatic citizenship and live on confiscated
Palestinian lands while denying native Palestinians the right to
return home. This also includes our opposition to anti-Jewish
statements and other acts."
It has been alleged that you work with
rightist racists and spread racist concepts about Jews.
1. In a message on your listserv Shamireaders
you list approvingly a letter from a Martin Webster whom you
describe as "Mr Martin Webster, a British friend of this list"
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shamireaders/message/162
Is this Martin Webster not the notorious
organizer in the 1970's for the violent rightist National Front
and writer of the anti-Jewish Inner Circle Researchers and
current publisher of Electronic Watch on Zion (EWOZ)?
2. Is it true that that you forwarded a post
of a leftist friend of Palestinians [SA Blackwell] to Webster
complete with her name and work address?
3. Is it true that as you have written to
Lenni Brenner that you have no objections to having your
writings published on neo-Nazi websites?
4. In your article on your website
"Bloodcurdling Libel" you argue that it is possible that some
Jews may indeed have killed Christians and have used blood
ritually.
http://www.israelshamir.net/english/blood.html
You offer no proof that such things actually
took place. The charge of ritual murder is a mainstay of
anti-Jewish incitement. Why would you give it credence on your
site?
5. You reposted on your listserv [message
#156] an article by Simon Jones from the Rense.com site (New
World Order - Survivalist - UFO) entitled: "Triumph Of The Will:
Jewish Cultural Hegemony" which argues that Zionism both ensured
the success of the Bolshevik Revolution and the undermining of
the Soviet Union. The Rense.com site also has a prominent
article contending that the Rothchilds invented communism as
part of a plot to control the world, an insane neo-nazi charge.
http://www.rense.com/general44/rek.htm
Why would you have any association with
Rense.com?
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My Response:
Let us begin with Nr 2 - 'ladies first'.
You make it sound like I passed on a love
letter of charming Sue [Sue Blackwell - see below]. Everyone who
writes to me (and it includes YOU) may have his/her letter
forwarded and used, unless it is marked 'private'. I run a
listserve, not a confession booth.
Pass to Nr 3.
Lenni wrote to me: I understand that you are
not responsible for them (right-wing sites) putting it up.
Neo-Nazis have put up my material as well. But when they do, I
denounce them, I replied: No, I do not denounce anybody who
distributes my writing; other way around - I approve of
him/her/it wholeheartedly. You were brought up in a traditional
home, maybe you remember the Hebrew saying: "mitoch shelo haya
le shma, haya le shma"; in other words, it is good to study the
Law even for totally wrong reasons, for the Law will bring the
person to better reasoning. Our books may be sold in shops whose
owners are not saints, and our message may be spread by whoever
chooses to spread our message.
Nr 5.
Your articles appeared in the Boston Globe,
and articles of other friends were published (not often enough)
by the New York Times, while these papers provide tribune for
Daniel Pipes the arch-racist and Thomas Friedman the Liar. Why
would you have any association with the NY Times? For it
provides access to multitudes. My articles were published in
Haaretz, the newspaper that published calls for genocide. Why
don't you mind it? Can it be that you differentiate between
Jewish Nazis and Gentile Nazis?
Nr 4.
In the article quoted I refer to a case of
ritual murder committed by a Jew and approved by the Jewish
community. Moreover, I quote a case of Blacks found guilty of
ritual murder. Do you believe that a Black can commit a ritual
murder (see recent case of Adam the Torso Boy in London) but a
Jew can't? Isn't it a racist belief?
No. 1.
I do not exclude that Mr Webster has, or had
some racist views. Does it mean he should be excommunicated? Why
do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not
consider the plank in your own eye? Indeed, in our e-group one
moderator believes that Blacks can murder for ritual reasons,
while Jews can't; another member (Lenni) supports Zionist thugs
of Antifa (a photo of Antifa carrying flags of Israel and
acclaiming Harris the British genocidaire, can be seen on the
left) ,
Weizfield voices the opinions of Foxman... Let us remove the
plank from our own eye, and then we shall see clearly to remove
the speck from our brother's eye.
It is possible that as an Israeli (the only
one in the e-group), I am not sensitive enough to the extreme
right. The opinions you describe as 'neo-nazi' are being held in
my country by moderate left of Shimon Peres. Webster probably
would not qualify even for the centre of the ruling Likud. But
for some reason, nobody minds speaking to Mr Peres.
My list is the place where the right and the
left have a chance to listen to each other directly - without
intermediary of the mainstream media, for I reject the Pharisee
complaint and eat with tax collectors and sinners.
Mr Webster does not want to have immigrants
in his country, while Emma Rosenthal stands for unlimited
immigration. Who is a better neighbour? Probably the truth lays
somewhere between these two extreme positions. In order to find
it, we should have both positions presented, and that is what my
list is doing.
The claim that I 'spread racist concepts
about Jews' is ridiculous. While racists believe that Jews can't
be but what they are, I believe that every 'Jew' can reject
Jewish exclusivity and become a good neighbour to all his
neighbours. Actually this Christian idea was expressed by Mr
Webster in the letter I published on my listserve: he wrote that
Mr Howard rejected the Jewish exclusivity and became, in his
opinion, a good neighbour of the English people. Instead of
trying to condemn him ad hominem, it would be better to read and
approve of his message.
You, members of al-Awda, had rejected the
supremacist idea of an exclusive Jewish state. You are on the
right way. Now, let us reject vehemence and the Pharisee
selectivity, and work together with everybody willing to support
the great idea of equality in Palestine.
Israel Adam Shamir
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SOME M.W. NOTES TO THE "CHARMING SUE BLACKWELL"
(Chief Ignoramus, Birmingham University)
From: Martin Webster To: Sue Blackwell Date: Thursday, November
13, 2003 12:41 am Subject: ME - the "leader of the BNP"!! What a
laugh!
Dear Sue Blackwell,
You may be right that I am "none other than THE" Martin Webster.
However I am not and never have been the leader of the British
National Party - indeed, I have never even been a member of that
party and do not seek to become such.
I produce two occasional e-bulletins:
(1) 'The Electronic Loose Cannon' (ELC) which is largely devoted
to attacking and exposing the BNP under its current leadership
(Chairman Nick Griffin - NOT me!) for taking up a "modernising"
strategy which involves coming to a modus vivendi with the
Zionists, accepting Afro-Caribbean and Indian Asian immigration
into Britain - and in effect accepting multi-racialism - but
opposing Pakistani and other Muslim Asian immigration and
(2) 'The Electronic Watch on Zion' (EWOZ) whose name, I think,
conveys its purpose and content.
Some of my essays in these bulletins have been republished by
Israel Shamir. This does not mean that he agrees with everything
I say. We are individuals. We come from different backgrounds.
We have a sense of humour too, a faculty which you should try to
cultivate.
Now to educate you about me, as you are in such dire ignorance:
From 1969 until 1983 I used to be the National Activities
Organiser of the National Front, but the NF and I parted company
in December 1983 - 20 years ago. Since that time I have not been
a member of any political organisation. I am now an independent
racial-nationalist.
I believe that each and every ethnic-national group should have
its own living space in their respective ancestral homelands and
I do not believe in the imposition on any ethnic group of
compulsory multi-racialism. That is a kind of genocide.
My views concerning the imposition of a multi-racial society on
Britain are to a certain extent predicated on this fact:
"Thus [in 1955] the only opportunity Parliament had to vote on
immigration was lost and a major ethnological alteration of the
nation took place without any democratic ratification whatever"
That quote is taken from the last chapter of 'Eminent
Churchillians' - a book by the academic historian Andrew
Roberts, published by Weidenfeld & Nicolson in 1994. Since
publication that crucial assertion of fact has not been
challenged by any informed authority (or even ill-informed
authorities, such as yourself).
In short, what the British people have had imposed on them has
no "democratic legitimacy" (a favourite catch-phrase of the Left
when it suits them) - yet it is being enforced and imposed not
just by a deluge of brainwashing propaganda in the mass media
and in the schools, but by iniquitous "Race Relations" laws.
The multi-racial society is being promoted both by the
International Left and by International Capitalism. Have you
never asked yourself why this is? I bet not - but I also bet you
consider yourself to be a "radical" and "anti-Establishment"!
The entity originally responsible for the promotion of
multi-racialism in Britain and in most other formerly
White-European nations across the globe is Zionist-Jewry. Jews
run most of the "anti racist" groups around the world. Yet these
are the same people who demand the right to enjoy the benefits
of ethnic exclusivity for themselves - not only within the
borders of Israel, but within the nations of the Diaspora. To
draw attention to that glaring fact is smeared as "anti-semitism"
- so most people shut up. I don't.
These people are oppressing native ethnic Britons in Britain -
and native ethnic Palestinians in Palestine. I only wish that
the British people were showing the same fighting spirit as the
Palestinians. My e-bulletins have readers throughout the Middle
East. One of my oldest friends and supporters (since 1963) is a
Muslim from India called Bashir Khan.
The Internationalism which you preach is a bloody disaster - an
inane fantasy which I will not attempt to dignify by appending
to it the description of "idealism". It is sheer folly.
It does not surprise me that somebody so ignorant about
everything else should rush into correspondence to display her
ignorance about me.
Grow up, woman.
Yours sincerely,
Martin Webster.
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